HomeMy WebLinkAbout10.08.04 Work Session Minutes
COUNCIL/CHAMBER OF COMMERCE MEETING
MINUTES
October 8, 2004
Staff Present
Mayor Ristow, Councilmember Cordes, Councilmember Fogarty
Barb Thompson, Bev Ersfeld, Josh Rucker, Sarah Miller, Glen Anderson,
Mike Heinzerling
David Urbia, City Administrator; Kevin Carroll, Community
Development Director; Cynthia Muller, Executive Assistant
Council Present:
Chamber Present:
DISCUSSION OF CHAMBER/CITY COMMUNICATION ISSUES
Suggestions from the Chamber on ways to communicate include sending the management report
to the Chamber, and placing an article in the paper similar to Lakeville. They have a page in the
paper with weekly updates on projects. Farmington could update residents on the Spruce Street
project showing things that have taken place, conversations about the wetlands, etc. Mayor
Ristow noted this was looked at four years ago and at that time neither the City nor the Chamber
had the funds. It was substituted with the management report and the newsletter. City
Administrator Urbia suggested adjusting the information in the management report, and placing
it on the website with a sign-up mailing list.
Mayor Ristow thought the Coffee with the Council had been dropped because there was nothing
to discuss. Mr. Heinzerling assumed everyone received the Monday Memo. He asked how to
create a communication vehicle instead of Coffee with the Council. City Administrator Urbia
suggested the Chamber find a way to contact someone at the City regarding issues to determine
if rumors are true. This would provide an opportunity to dismiss rumors that are not true. Mr.
Heinzerling stated the information was brought to the table at a meeting. The Letter to the Editor
was not meant to be bad to the City. The Chamber assumed the City disregarded the Monday
Memo invitation. Mayor Ristow stated the Council has protocols, policies and procedures to
follow. Rumors that Council is not being cooperative are not always true.
Mr. Heinzerling asked how to create better communication. Ms. Thompson stated the Chamber
used to meet with one Councilmember prior to Council Meetings. Unless there was something
pressing, they just visited. This was eventually dropped. There is never a problem talking with
staff. The purpose of the Coffee with Council was to talk with Council. A lot of Chamber
members do not know Councilmembers. Councilmember Fogarty was disappointed when the
Coffee with Council ended. She attended one meeting with six Chamber members and it was
very productive. It provides an informal situation to bring out rumors. Light agendas are okay.
The Chamber needs access to Council. Mayor Ristow suggested if there is not enough for the
agenda, the meeting could be postponed. Councilmember Cordes stated it was not a lack of
information, but a lack of attendance. Councilmember Fogarty replied it provides a casual
environment where Chamber members can reach a Councilmember.
City Administrator Urbia suggested if the Chamber hears something during the month, they
should call or e-mail him and he will obtain an answer. Mr. Heinzerling stated Ms. Thompson
should call City Administrator Urbia and ask if information obtained is true. Mayor Ristow
heard the developer for Spruce Street was going to walk. They have a lot of issues to meet. The
developer came to Council and they had a follow-up meeting and discussed the issues.
Businesses have to promote themselves. The City has done a streetscape project to enhance the
downtown. He agreed Ms. Thompson should communicate with City Administrator Urbia when
rumors are heard.
Councilmember Fogarty recalled a couple years ago the Independent wanted Council to alternate
writing articles. This would be a great way to communicate if the City cannot afford a weekly
ad. It would put rumors to rest. Mr. Nathan Hansen, Farmington Independent, stated the City
could do a column like the school. In Rosemount, the City Administrator writes the column. He
could take the management report and call it City Notes. Mayor Ristow agreed City
Administrator Urbia should write it so Council would not be attached. Councilmember Cordes
agreed. With the article coming from the City Administrator it would not be construed as one-
sided. Mr. Heinzerling stated they could still have the Coffee with the Council either monthly or
quarterly.
City Administrator Urbia will send the management report to the Chamber, set up a schedule for
Coffee with the Council, and work on an article for the Independent. Executive Assistant Muller
will send the Monday Memo to Council.
Mr. Colin Garvey asked the Chamber's opinion of having the HRA turned back to Council. Ms.
Thompson stated this was brought up at the candidate forum. She asked if the HRA was an extra
board that is not needed. Mayor Ristow understood there were taxing issues made by non-
elected people. He would agree with changing the HRA to Council. Councilmember Fogarty
did not like the idea of citizens being removed. She suggested the HRA be re-structured to three
Councilmembers and three residents. Mr. Garvey felt during the HRA interviews, some people
do not understand what they are applying for. The City needs more commercial growth. It
needs to be quicker and easier. If a business owner does not want TIP, they should be able to
acquire the property easier. Councilmember Fogarty replied Mr. Garvey's experience was that
way. It is not a policy. The Spruce Street problems are not related in that way. There are
environmental issues, a trout stream, etc. This will set a precedent for the future. Community
Development Director Carroll stated as far as Spruce Street, the agencies are not always sure
what they require. He invited others to attend the Spruce Street meetings.
Ms. Thompson noted the moratorium was lifted in October 2003. She asked how much has
changed that these issues could not have been reviewed during that time. Councilmember
Fogarty replied the AUAR was being done. Community Development Director Carroll
explained there has to be a specific plan from the developer, and the City gives that information
to the agencies. The agencies then comment on that information. Mayor Ristow stated it will be
even more difficult south ofthe river with more homes. Ms. Thompson stated people are
frustrated with the moratorium and now wonder what was done. An article is needed on this
issue. Community Development Director Carroll stated it was erroneous information that Spruce
Street was involved in the moratorium. Mr. Peterson is not ready to develop his property, he was
not slowed down. Mr. Allen and Mr. Adelmann are not ready to develop their properties. Ms.
Thompson felt that needed to be communicated.
Mayor Ristow stated the preliminary plat is going to the Planning Commission. It will come to
Council when the engineering issues are resolved. Community Development Director Carroll
replied the Planning Commission is taking a different stand. They do not like recommending
plats with too many contingencies. The Spruce Street developer has asked for the plat to go to
the Planning Commission. Staffhas to push, but cannot endanger the relationship. Ifthe
Chamber receives calls, they should be forwarded to Community Development Director Carroll
to address them directly. Mr. Heinzerling felt a monthly article in the Independent should help.
Community Development Director Carroll added the Chamber created the CDC. They meet
once a month. They have good discussions with 3-S Chamber members. That is the place to talk
about issues. Staff should pass concerns to Mr. Heinzerling or Ms. Peggy Johnson. Mr.
Heinzerling apologized for the Letter to Editor stating it was done in frustration. Community
Development Director Carroll expressed the need to continue discussions. It is difficult to repair
the damage from rumors. The Letter to the Editor stated staffhad turned down a hotel. A hotel
was never turned down. The Industrial Park was not the appropriate place for a hotel. Mr.
Thelen stated the HRA turned it down, because it did not fit the covenants in the Industrial Park.
Community Development Director Carroll stated he met with two people on a regular basis who
asked for zoning for hotels. They were shown several sites and were told the zoning in the
Industrial Park did not allow a hotel. They were told the process to have the property re-zoned.
The Spruce Street plat shows a hotel. Ms. Thompson asked why staffwas not working harder
with businesses to get them here. There is a difference between marketing and zoning.
Community Development Director Carroll replied the City does not have money budgeted for
marketing. Ifwe market an area, we have to be ready to deliver. We cannot market the Devney
or Berglund properties because the City does not own it. He has sent people to the Spruce Street
developer. If Council wants staff to spend money on marketing, they would be glad to do so.
Mr. Heinzerling understood with some commercial businesses there has to be more housing.
Mr. Heinzerling felt there were some good ideas discussed for communicating. This meeting
would cover the September Coffee with Council. They need to set up another meeting for
October 21. Community Development Director Carroll suggested this discussion be continued at
the next CDC meeting.
Respectfully submitted,
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CCynthia Muller
Executive Assistant