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COUNCIL MINUTES
REGULAR
October 18, 2004
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Ristow at 7:00 p.m.
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Mayor Ristow led the audience and Council in the Pledge of Allegiance.
3.
ROLL CALL
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Also Present:
Audience:
Ristow, Cordes, Fitch, Fogarty
Soderberg
Joel Jamnik, City Attorney; David Urbia, City Administrator;
Robin Roland, Finance Director; Kevin Carroll, Community
Development Director; Lee Mann, Director of Public Works/City
Engineer; Lisa Shadick, Administrative Services Director; Brenda
Wendlandt, Human Resources Director; Ken Kuchera, Fire Chief;
Cynthia Muller, Executive Assistant
David Pritzlaff, Michael & Laura Pierce, David McKnight, Mike
Zitek, John Anderson, Cathy Saari, Marion Graf, Randy Pedersen,
Kim Leroux, Joanne Payne, Gene Pedersen, Stan Knutsen, Steve
Wilson, Bill Sievers, Bob Weigert
4. APPROVE AGENDA
Councilmember Fitch pulled the 10/8/04 Special Minutes to abstain. City Administrator
Urbia added a supplemental item 109) Vermillion River Crossing Preliminary Plat
Update.
MOTION by Fogarty, second by Fitch to approve the Agenda. APIF, MOTION
CARRIED.
s. ANNOUNCEMENTS
a) 2003 Life Safety Achievement Award
City Administrator Urbia presented the 2003 Life Safety Achievement Award to
Fire Chief Kuchera. Councilmember Cordes noted there have been 567 days
without a structural fire in Farmington.
6. CITIZEN COMMENTS
Ms. Joanne Payne, 20192 Akin Road, asked Council to reconsider the appointment that
could possibly arise after the election for a third Council seat. She feels the seat should
go to the third highest vote getter. She realized a new Council could change this,
however she would like Council to reconsider the policy on filling a vacant Council seat.
Mr. Michael Pierce, 5137 203rd Street W, recently moved into a new home and requested
Council to vacate the wetland buffer behind their home. The plat shows a drainage and
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utility easement. Their lot backs up to a nature preserve. The covenants for that area do
not speak to the wetland buffer. The City would like him to reseed the area with natural
grasses up to the wetland buffer. He understood the developer is responsible for getting
the information to the builder and the builder should pass it on to the homeowner. He
noted the 3rd and 5th additions have the same setback and there are no signs in the 3rd
addition. When he received a permit for a deckt there was nothing saying they were
approaching the easement. Staff will research the issue.
7. CONSENT AGENDA
MOTION by Fogarty, second by Cordes to approve the Consent Agenda as follows:
a) Approved Council Minutes (10/4/04 Regular) (10/5/04 Special)
b) Approved Temporary On-Sale Liquor License - Administration
c) Adopted RESOLUTION R82-04 Gambling Event Permit - Administration
d) Adopted RESOLUTION R83-04 Gambling Event Permit - Administration
e) Set November 3,2004 Special Meeting - Election Results - Administration
f) Received Information Capital Outlay - Parks
g) Approved Appointment Recommendation Liquor Operations - Human Resources
h) Approved Appointment Recommendation Finance - Human Resources
i) Approved Appointment Recommendation Parks and Recreation - Human
Resources
j) Approved Maintenance Facility Fueling Station - Engineering
Councilmember Fogarty asked ifthe City was partly to blame for the settling.
City Engineer Mann replied there is an issue where the compaction was not done
completely as well as when the area was redesigned to put the fueling island
there, the designers were not aware that was used as a borrow area. A
compromise was reached.
k) Received Information September 2004 Financial Report - Finance
I) Received Information Quarterly Building Report - Community Development
m) Approved Change Order - Southeast Trunk Utility Pond Project - Engineering
n) Received Information Capital Outlay - Fire Department
0) Received Information Change Order Tanker Truck - Fire Department
p) Approved Bills
APIF, MOTION CARRIED.
a) MOTION by Cordes, second by Fogarty to approve Council Minutes (10/8/04
Special). Voting for: Ristow, Cordes, Fogarty. Abstain: Fitch. MOTION
CARRIED.
8. PUBLIC HEARINGS
a) Adopt Resolution - Main Street Project Assessment Hearing - Engineering
The Main Street reconstruction project is almost complete. Phase 1 consisted of
the area north of the railroad tracks and phase 2 was the area south of the railroad
tracks. The assessment policy indicates that reconstructed streets and lateral
utilities are assessed to benefiting properties at a rate of 35% and the City funds
the remaining 65%. The appraisal indicated the maximum benefit received by the
properties would be $6,000 per residential equivalent unit. Staffhas received four
letters from property owners objecting to the assessment from Mr. Merle H.
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McClintock, Ms. Margaret Weir, 406 Main Street, Walter and Kimberly Lang,
III 6th Street, and Mr. Colin Garvey who owns several properties in the project
area. One was for a deferment. One property owner asked for clarification
regarding a deferred assessment. If there is a senior deferral and Council agrees
to it, the assessment is deferred for a period of two years and then it has to be
renewed after that. The person requesting senior deferral must present financial
evidence that the assessment would present financial hardship. Interest accrues
on the deferred assessment at a rate of 5%. MOTION by Fitch, second by
Cordes to close the public hearing. APIF, MOTION CARRIED. Staffwill
bring the deferral requests back to Council for approval. MOTION by Fogarty,
second by Cordes to adopt RESOLUTION R84-04 adopting the assessment roll
for the Main Street Area Reconstruction Project. APIF, MOTION CARRIED.
b) Adopt Resolution - Spruce Street Extension Project - Engineering
The proposed project consists of extending Spruce Street from Denmark Avenue
west into the Spruce Street Commercial area. The bridge over the Vermillion
River is a necessary and key component of the project. The project would end at
the Town Square in the Knutson property. The roadway alignment has been
incorporated in the preliminary plat design. The cost of the project is $3,046,000.
The City has received a grant in the amount of $955,000. The remainder of the
cost, $2,091,000, would be assessed to the benefiting properties. The cost of this
portion of Spruce Street should not be allocated beyond the Knutson property.
The portion beyond the Knutson property would be paid for by those properties as
they develop. Properties south of the river would participate in the cost ofthe
east-west roadway on the south side of the river.
Mr. Gene Pedersen, Knutson Development, asked if the town square is included
in the assessment amount. City Engineer Mann replied the town square costs are
not included in the roadway costs. It includes the southerly portion that goes by
the town square, but the town square itself is not included.
Staff would like to take bids no later than March. Plans and specs will have to
come to Council in January or February. MOTION by Cordes, second by Fitch
to close the public hearing. APIF, MOTION CARRIED. MOTION by Fitch,
second by Fogarty adopting RESOLUTION R8S-04 ordering the Spruce Street
Extension Project and authorizing the preparation of plans and specifications.
APIF, MOTION CARRIED.
9. AWARD OF CONTRACT
10. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
g) Vermillion River Crossing Preliminary Plat Update - Administration
(This item was moved forward to accommodate the audience).
Mr. Randy Pedersen, Pedersen Ventures, requested the preliminary plat for the
Knutson development be placed on the agenda for approval. The Planning
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Commission recommended the preliminary plat be forwarded to Council with
certain conditions. Those conditions are being worked on and staff felt the plat
was not ready for a recommendation. However, staff did provide an update.
Community Development Director Carroll stated Pedersen Ventures filed a
preliminary plat on August 27, 2004. Typically staff requires five weeks to
review plats. It was agreed to reduce that time, and scheduled a special Planning
Commission meeting for September 28, 2004. There was a public hearing held,
and the Planning Commission recommended the plat receive a favorable
recommendation, but that it not be forwarded to Council until a number of issues
were resolved. Two issues were very technical and minor, but both would have
involved physical changes to the plat. The third dealt with environmental
concerns from the agencies. The DNR and Soil and Water Conservation District
requested the City not approve the plat until their issues are resolved. Staff
attended a meeting with several environmental agencies and discussed a number
of environmental issues and made some progress. A follow-up meeting was also
held where it was decided the developer's engineer would do some work on the
plat to incorporate some of the agreements reached at the last meeting. The
engineer indicated he would need a week to do that. He would then submit the
revised plat and some related calculations to the agencies. The agencies would
need a week to review the information and they would relay comments to the
City. Their comments would be reviewed by staff. Staff did not feel there would
be enough time for the agencies to do their work and to revise the plat in time for
the November I meeting. It was more likely it would be ready for the November
15,2004 Council meeting.
City Engineer Mann stated the main issue is the temperature of the trout stream.
The PCA rules state there can be no temperature increase to the trout stream.
Since the initial meeting discussions have concentrated on the temperature issue,
how to treat the water, how to keep the water from getting to the river, and how to
keep the water from heating up before getting to the river. The developer's
engineer felt there were a couple things he could do to address those issues. If
they could be shown on the plat, the Soil and Water Conservation District and the
PCA would be satisfied.
Councilmember Pitch stated his understanding after the Planning Commission
meeting was that the PCA has the final authority to issue the permit. He asked if
the DNR would accept whatever the PCA dictates. City Engineer Mann replied
all of the agencies have been involved. Based on the new rules in August, this is
the first development of this kind next to a trout stream that the agencies have
dealt with. illtimately, the PCA is the bottom line agency to grant approval
regarding the trout stream and the quality of the water. The DNR does have
jurisdiction over the fisheries of the trout stream and the flood plain. The Soil and
Water Conservation District gets involved with the wetlands and the trout stream.
The developer will have to get an NPDES Phase II construction permit. There is
no requirement to have this approved or any review before any City approves a
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preliminary or final plat. Staff could get through the whole process and then the
developer would talk to the PCA and they would have the ability to change
everything. Staffhas tried to be proactive and get the agencies involved from the
beginning so when the construction permit comes through, there will not be any
issues. Councilmember Fitch thought if the agencies all got together they would
be able to work things out. No one knows what is and is not going to work.
Technically, the City is the responsible governmental unit. If the PCA gives the
permit are they responsible if this does not work. He understood the Planning
Commission's reservations, but asked if this could be done simultaneously at the
next meeting with Council approving the plat on the same conditions as the final
PCA permit. City Engineer Mann replied they would have to look at the
temperature issues and once the developer's engineer gives an update as to what
he can achieve, staff can try to do the analysis. Councilmember Fitch understood
the developer's concerns as they also have potential customers to satisfy. He
wanted to make sure the City does not continually inhibit the process itself and at
least get a preliminary plat approved with certain conditions. He thought it would
be on the agenda tonight.
City Engineer Mann stated at the initial meeting with the agencies, they spent a
lot of time talking about a lot of different issues. There is evidence this is the first
time for the agencies to look at something like this. Based on the second meeting,
the agencies have an idea as to what will satisfy them. Staff's position is once we
are comfortable we have something that will not put the City at risk as far as
approving a plan, staff will bring it forward.
Councilmember Cordes asked if the agencies are giving staff concrete resolutions
to help the developer. City Engineer Mann replied at the last meeting there were
good concrete ideas as to what they would like to see. The thing that is difficult is
that until something is really built, it is hard to gauge if there will be a
temperature impact. There was acknowledgement on the agencies part that this is
a commercial development and they are not trying to look at things that will
completely blow the costs out of the water. The issues mentioned did not seem to
be out of line. Community Development Director Carroll stated the Soil and
Water Conservation District stated there is $40,000 - $50,000 available from the
Met Council they would be willing to devote to this project to help offset some of
the costs the developer might have to make changes. Councilmember Cordes
asked when Council can expect to see a preliminary plat. City Engineer Mann
replied Council should see it no later than November 15,2004. It is difficult to
guarantee seeing the plat on November 1, 2004.
Mayor Ristow asked if the bridge and the roadway would be a factor. City
Engineer Mann replied the bridge and the road are a separate project. The PCA is
not going to look at the road project any differently than the development project.
The storm water quality issues and temperature issues will be dealt with in
conjunction with the ponding done for the Vermillion Crossing project. The DNR
would be involved anytime you cross a river. Staffhas met with them regarding
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their concerns. The SWCD will weigh in on the wetland issues. The two projects
should not affect each other.
Mr. Gene Pedersen stated they have been going on for two years and has listened
to the same story and about the drawings. He requested Council either decide
tonight to approve the plat subject to the conditions, or forget it. He has spent too
much money and they have no guarantees. Every time they come in, it is
something different. To postpone this and go along with staffwill do this and
that, it is another story. He cannot hold his clients anymore. He feels Council is
hurting Farmington by postponing it. Some of his clients are asking for another
site. He stated Council and staff will have to start showing some indication that
they want this project. He felt staff is not doing that. He asked to let the
development team help solve the problems. He wanted the preliminary plat
approved and work as a team instead of fighting back and forth. Their engineer
does not know what to do anymore. Right now, they do not have the incentive to
spend anymore money. There has been cooperation on both sides, but Council is
only asking for griefto put it off. He does not think staffhas been completely
cooperative in working with them. He would like their development team,
Council and staff, work together as a team to solve issues with the agencies.
City Administrator Urbia stated there are no documents in front of Council to
approve. They are not ready. It is out of staff's hands and up to the agencies.
Staff wants to get this approved and feels there has been a team effort. The Met
Council grant money is good news. The agencies are adding another requirement
as far as the temperature, but they are also willing to put money into it through the
grant. Council just approved doing plans and specifications for the road and
bridge extension. Mr. Pedersen stated we have been at this same spot for a long
time and it is one more deal. He wanted everyone on the team and put the
agencies on the spot to approve this. The agencies are not going to hurry. City
Administrator Urbia stated staffhas 60 days to review the preliminary plat and the
agencies are under the same timeline. There is no one that can make the PCA
move faster. Staffhas worked hard to get an answer from the agencies. Mayor
Ristow asked if the plat can be approved contingent on the PCA approval. City
Attorney J amnik stated that approval is running on the same timeline.
Councilmember Cordes believed they have approved preliminary plats before
with contingencies. City Attorney Jamnik stated there are too many uncertainties
for staff to make a recommendation for approval. In the past Council has
scrutinized those conditions to see which ones they are comfortable with.
Because this is an environmentally sensitive area the storm water pond design is
an essential element. Because of those situations, staff is not comfortable coming
to Council for a conditional approval. Council would be delegating a central
feature of the project to the engineering department. Council would see it on the
final plat, but it might be substantially different than the preliminary plat. Past
practice has been to keep the changes as small as possible between final plat and
the preliminary plat. Councilmember Fitch stated we gave the Planning
Commission the option of approving it with conditions, but Council is the final
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authority. City Attorney Jamnik stated it could be processed November 1, but
you would be doing it on the faith that engineering would get the approvals
necessary so there are no additional City costs between preliminary and final plat.
Councilmember Fitch asked if there are substantial changes on the preliminary
plat, does it have to go back to the Planning Commission. City Attorney Jamnik
stated that is one of the issues, if the conditional approval is substantially
different, we have sent it back. There might not be anything significant at this
point, but we do not know for sure.
Mayor Ristow stated Mr. Pedersen has said if this does not move tonight, he is
done. The land sits, the Spruce Street corridor is done, the project is over. He
asked if Farmington wants this development or not. Staffhas to follow protocol
and there are other agencies involved, but he also understood Mr. Pedersen's
frustration. Councilmember Cordes stated she can understand their frustration,
but hoped they would respect her position. She cannot in good conscience
approve a preliminary plat when she has no information in front of her and that
she has not been able to review. She asked if the Knutson's and staff could work
hard in the next two weeks and asked if they can have two more weeks to get this
done. Mr. Pedersen said no, they asked to have the plat brought to the meeting
tonight. They have been told this so much and received a different answer each
time. They have the opinion someone is trying to stop this project. They could be
wrong, but there have been too many individual things that have happened. He
thinks there is someone on staffwho is trying to stop the project. They do not
have the faith they should have. There are many on staff that have worked very
hard. He understands Council does not have a plat tonight, and that is one of the
problems, why isn't it here. He stated staffhas everything they need to make the
changes.
Councilmember Fitch stated legally we cannot do anything with the plat tonight.
City Administrator Urbia stated he received a call Thursday, and that is too late.
City Attorney Jamnik stated under the by-laws you cannot add an action item
tonight except by unanimous consent. The standard protocol is for Council to
direct staff to place it on the next agenda for either a Special or Regular Meeting.
If the developer's engineer has the information back, and staff has had time to
review it, Council could act on it at the next meeting. If not, Council would be in
a position to say they are not comfortable with the information and table it.
Mr. Bob Weigert, Paramount Engineering, stated the preliminary plat had a
couple minor technical issues to be resolved. The issue with the temperature was
brought forward at the Planning Commission meeting to delay action on the
preliminary plat until that issue is resolved to the satisfaction of a number of
agencies. The ponding issue is something staffhas decided they want to resolve
before bringing the preliminary plat. Normally, the NPDES II permit is applied
for prior to commencing grading operations. For some reason the agencies have
gotten involved early with the thought it might have a significant impact on the
layout of the plat. He thought the last meeting was good. The design with regard
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to the lot and street layout, will probably not change significantly to satisfy the
issues with the agencies. They are trying to get something from the PCA in
writing that the direction they are taking will satisfy them to issue a permit. To
get to that stage requires quite a bit of work. The question before the Council is,
is the change to the ponding and infiltration so significant that Council cannot
consider the review and approval of the preliminary plat prior to the resolution of
those things. Mr. Weigert feels they can get there without significant changes to
the preliminary plat layout.
City Engineer Mann agreed that based on the meetings with the agencies there are
no major changes to the plat layout. If what is shown will meet what the agencies
are asking for, the plat can be brought forward. Mayor Ristow asked if the
Knutson's are acceptable, would staff agree this can be brought to Council for
November 1. City Engineer Mann stated he can guarantee Council they can bring
the plat to Council November 1. The part that needs to be worked out between
the developer's engineer, staff, and the agencies is, are we far along enough that
we can comfortably recommend sending it on. There is potential for that to occur
on November I. Community Development Director Carroll stated it is not a lot
different than what was done with the Planning Commission. There was not
enough information for staff to recommend approval, but they agreed to bring it to
the Planning Commission. If Mr. Pedersen is looking for guarantees, and Council
tells staff they want it on the November 1 agenda, staff can guarantee it will be on
there. What staff cannot guarantee is whether the developer's engineer will be
able to get the changes done in time to get them to the agencies, and to receive the
agencies' comments in time. If that is not of great concern, staff will put it on the
agenda and Council can make their decision then. Councilmember Cordes stated
if it was far enough along to present it to the Planning Commission and they are
usually the first body that recommends to the Council, why hasn't it come to
Council. Staff replied the Planning Commission does not make the final decision.
They are an advisory body. The Planning Commission has said do not bring
things to us until most ofthe issues are resolved. In this case, because of staff's
interest in moving this forward, they agreed to putting it on the Planning
Commission agenda, even though under normal circumstances they would not.
Staff is trying to respond to the direction from the Planning Commission. They
did not want this to go to Council until these issues are resolved, but Council can
override them. Mayor Ristow understood from Mr. Weigert that there are just a
few ponding issues that are staff's concern. City Engineer Mann replied the main
issue is the ponding and that any changes will not significantly change the layout.
It is possible there will not be major changes. Mayor Ristow asked if City
Engineer Mann agreed Mr. Weigert has to have it worked out with the agencies,
or it can be a contingency. City Engineer Mann replied it is possible that by
November 1, Mr. Weigert will look at what the ramifications to the design are,
and touch base with the agencies. There is not a huge change between the
concept plan and the preliminary plat. Community Development Director Carroll
stated the Planning Commission does not get too concerned about ponding issues.
They look at the lot lines. Because ofthe timing, it was discussed at the meeting
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last Wednesday, for Mr. Weigert to use the remainder oflast week and all of this
week to make changes to the plat. That would allow the week of October 25 for
the agencies to review it, which is 5 business days and much less than they like to
have. It would then go to staff for review for a week and put together the packet
for the meeting on November 15. If you want to short circuit that, what Council
may get is an indication that staff and the agencies have received a revised plat,
but comments have not been received. The agencies may show up in person to
provide comments.
Mr. Bill Sievers, general contractor, stated at the last few meetings, the only thing
discussed is drainage and the sensitivity to the Vermillion River. No one has
talked about the numerous times they have revised drawings to meet staff
requirements for the buildings themselves and the development. He asked if the
City wanted this development or not. It sounds like the issues can be worked out
without major changes. No one talks about whether they want this development.
The Vermillion River is 700 ft. away. He does not see how it can change
temperature. He asked if the City wants this development. He has been at all of
the meetings and they have changed it and changed it. Mayor Ristow stated the
Council has put in a tremendous effort and if they did not care, the development
would not be as far as it is. Mr. Sievers did not understand why it cannot be
approved tonight with the contingency of getting approval from the agencies.
Mayor Ristow stated Council does not have the plat to approve.
Councilmember Fogarty stated Council has worked hard from the beginning, it
was left out of the moratorium, staff and the developer worked hard on the
concept plan, the developer has provided a preliminary plat, staff usually takes 5
weeks to review it, they expedited that, they called a Special Planning
Commission meeting to help get the preliminary plat approved, and the Council
has approved grading without the preliminary plat. Council wants this project,
but they cannot blindly pass a preliminary plat right now. It is unfair to say it is
done, when Council cannot do this. Council and staffhave worked very hard to
make this project happen. Mr. Pedersen stated he agrees with Councilmember
Fogarty and the Mayor 100% that the Council has worked every way they can to
help this. They would not be where they are today, if the Council had not taken it
upon themselves to push this. Councilmember Fogarty stated staff asked for the
special Planning Commission meeting. Mr. Pedersen stated he is trying to tell
Council they have also done a lot of work to help. He stated whether Council
knows it or not, they helped a great deal to get the grant for the bridge. They
moved the road. Council has done a lot and some of the staff has done a lot, but
there has been someone fighting this from the beginning. It is time the public
realizes someone has a personal vendetta against them. City Engineer Mann and
City Planner Smick have done a tremendous job working on this. He asked how
much they expect. The Knutson's are common, sincere people trying to put a
project together. He realized it cannot be approved tonight. He agreed to give the
Council until November I, 2004.
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Council directed staff to bring the preliminary plat to the November 1,2004
Council Meeting.
a) Customer Service Response Report - Administration
For the second quarter of 2004, the surveys showed 91 % for prompt response,
84% were personally satisfied, and 100% said employees were courteous and
helpful.
b) Approve Metro Watershed Partners Funding - Engineering
The Metro Watershed Partners are a group that puts together educational
materials to help people living in watersheds understand the ramifications of their
actions. The educational items help the City to meet the best management
practices that are required in the stormwater pollution prevention plan. The Metro
Watershed Partners asked the City if they would be willing to participate in the
amount of $1500 to help them continue to put together these educational items.
The funds would come out ofthe storm water utility fund. MOTION by Fogarty,
second by Cordes to approve the expenditure of $1 ,500 to support the Metro
Watershed Partners. APIF, MOTION CARRIED.
c) Adopt Resolution - TH3 Functional Classification - Engineering
The Met Council is in the process of putting together their 2030 Transportation
Policy Plan. The main issue is the status ofTH3. Currently it is classified as a
minor arterial and has the status of preservation which means there will be very
little funding put towards TH3. Staff presented a resolution asking the Met
Council to consider putting the status of principal arterial on TH3. Without this
status there is very little opportunity for funding. In other areas of the metro
communities have come together to try to address funding issues for roadways. If
Council is interested, staffwill do this. The status is preservation until 2025. The
plan shows Farmington is in the area for transit expansion. If this occurs, the City
will be taxed to be in this area. Staff asked for comments from Council as to
whether they wanted to be included in this area. Another issue is the City
endorsing the Cedar corridor transit project. This is a recommendation from the
Traffic Engineer. The City would like to include in the letter to the Met Council
that the City is interested in this. Councilmember Cordes asked about the City
putting in a park and ride. City Engineer Mann explained this is part of the Cedar
corridor transit project. This would provide residents an opportunity to park at the
park and ride and be able to get to the transit corridor. Councilmember Cordes
stated if the City were to commit to being included in the transit area, it should be
discussed further as it is another tax. Councilmember Fogarty would like to see
the transit go from Cedar, across CR50, and north on Pilot Knob to include more
communities. City Engineer Mann stated this would fall more into the category
of being in the transit area, rather than just having a park and ride. MOTION by
Fitch, second by Fogarty adopting RESOLUTION R86-04 requesting that the
Met Council change the functional classification ofTH3 from minor arterial to
principal arterial. APIF, MOTION CARRIED. MOTION by Fogarty, second
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by Cordes to approve the draft letter to the Met Council. APIF, MOTION
CARRIED.
d) Approve Joint Annexation Resolution - Giles Development - Community
Development
There is a property currently located in Empire Township, just south of the future
19Sth Street alignment. It is adjacent to property formerly owned by Bernard
Murphy. Mr. Murphy has petitioned for the annexation of his property. He
agreed to wait for annexation until the property was granted MUSA. Empire
Township has agreed to not oppose the annexation and agreed to execute ajoint
resolution. Community Development Director Carroll thanked the people who
served on the EFP AC committee. Councilmember Fogarty thanked Community
Development Director Carroll for his work on the committee and stated this is an
example of what can happen when communities work together. MOTION by
Fogarty, second by Cordes adopting RESOLUTION R87-04 approving the
annexation of approximately 93 acres currently owned by Bernard Murphy Farms
Limited Partnership and Giles Properties, Inc. APIF, MOTION CARRIED.
e) Adopt Ordinance - Logo Signs - Community Development
The Farmington Lions Club has indicated an interest in placing logo signs in the
right-of-way next to a number of City entrance monuments. There are two
specific changes to the sign ordinance. One is the definition of a logo sign and
the other change specifies the circumstances under which logo signs could be
permitted within the right-of-way. One condition is the sign be co-located with
the City's entrance signs not exceeding 24 inches in height or width or 24 inches
in diameter. The sign has to be sponsored and maintained by an organization's
local chapter with an office located within the City. A responsible person of the
organization has to be designated for maintenance issues. The organization has to
provide written proof that it has obtained any permits or approvals that are
required by any other governmental entities for the placement of signs within their
rights-of-way. Signs would not be able to be attached to the concrete entrance
signs. Staff would like the organizations to work with them to explore the
possibility of getting some sort of structure built near the entrance monuments to
place signs on for a number of organizations. There may be the possibility of cost
sharing between the organizations. Staff recommended 24 inches in size, as that
is what the State requires. Any organization could have a sign attached to the
green entrance signs. The Lions Club has already purchased a sign that is 30
inches in diameter. Council should determine if they want to keep the size at 24
inches or go up to 30 inches. The Lions Club ordered the sign some time ago on
their own initiative. They have explored the possibility of placing the signs on
private property. The County would not object to having free standing signs next
to the entrance monuments as long as it is in the landscaped area on the far side of
the monument. If signs are placed in the middle of the green entrance sign, the
state would require raising the entire sign and would charge a fee.
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Councilmember Cordes noted the City Attorney indicated in a letter that the
Council can place a limit on the number of signs allowed. She asked how you
define a service organization. City Attorney Jamnik stated that is his primary
concern with the ordinance and the proposal. You can allow some, but by
allowing some, means you allow all. If an organization can persuade a court they
meet the same requirements as the other service organizations approved, the City
would have to allow them. Staff believes that risk is outweighed by the benefit to
the community by acknowledging the valid service organizations. Once the
ordinance is adopted it would have to be administered in an even handed fashion.
Mayor Ristow stated if the City goes with putting the signs on the green entrance
sign, it would have to be approved by the State. Councilmember Cordes did not
have a problem with the signs, she did not want the clutter. If Council does
nothing, the Lions Club can petition to put them on the State's signs at two
entrances. The ordinance states the signs should be co-located with the City's
entrance signs. Councilmember Fitch wanted to see how it would look
aesthetically before it is approved. The State will not commit to a proposal for a
free standing structure in their right-of-way unless they see what is proposed.
Councilmember Fogarty felt the organizations could come up with some type of
free standing structure on their own rather than staff designing a structure. She
would also like to see a computer-generated drawing as to how it would look.
City Administrator Urbia will talk to the organizations about this discussion and
determine how the organizations want to proceed. MOTION by Fogarty, second
by Cordes to table this item until the next meeting. APIF, MOTION
CARRIED.
t) 2005 CIP Authority to Proceed with Preliminary Planning - Administration
City Administrator Urbia identified the projects for 2005 and the status. He noted
the Council approved the plans and specifications for the Spruce Street project.
He knows everyone on staff has recommended the Council should proceed with
the plans and specifications. That shows everyone is on board with the project.
Council direction was pending on the Fire Station, Prairie Creek drainage way
dredging, and sewer meter replacement. The Prairie Creek dredging is funded by
the storm water funded and is done by City staff. Staff asked for Council to
approve this. There are three sewer meters that need to be replaced. They need to
be brought up to date to receive accurate readings. One meter was installed with
the Main Street project. This would come out of the sanitary sewer fund. For the
Fire Station, the architectural fees for Wold would be 70% of the basic services of
$85,000 equaling $59,500. This would cover the design of the facility and ready
for the City Council with a decision to bid the project. The costs would come out
ofthe municipal building fund. Another 5% would be for bid services and the
remaining amount would be for the actual construction, administration,
inspection, etc. The second location is located on the campus at 195th Street and
Pilot Knob Road, across from the Maintenance Facility. In the future, with the
build out ofthe City and the MUSA granted, a third station would be necessary.
A station should cover a 1.5 mile radius. The proposed location for a third station
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is at the future 195th Street connection with TH3. Staff asked for direction so
bidding could be done in the spring. Councilmember Fitch noted new trucks have
been ordered and a place is needed to store them. He felt the City could afford the
Fire Station. Mayor Ristow asked if these were the actual costs. Finance Director
Roland replied these costs are estimated. If there were 100% City funding of the
Spruce Street, Ash Street and Fire Station projects, the Fire Station would be a 20-
year bond. Councilmember Fogarty agreed that public safety is a number one
priority. MOTION by Fitch, second by Fogarty to approve proceeding with the
necessary planning and design of the three remaining projects. APIF, MOTION
CARRIED.
11. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
12. NEW BUSINESS
13. COUNCIL ROUNDTABLE
Councilmember Fogarty: There will be a discussion on the Thoroughfare Plan for the
area east of Akin Road and south of 195th on October 20, 2004.
There are six weeks until the truth-in-taxation hearing. A budget meeting was held last
week. No one on the Council takes $1.2 million lightly. She encouraged residents to call
Councilor staff if they have any questions about the budget.
City Administrator Urbia: Coffee with the Council will be October 21,2004, 7:30
a.m. at the Eagles Club. Mayor Ristow and Councilmember Fogarty will attend. The
topic will be the Spruce Street bridge, and the trout stream.
He received a note from the Farmington Area Historical Society that they will have their
fall presentation at the Library on October 27,2004 at 7:00 p.m.
Community Development
Director Carroll: He received an e-mail from Councilmember Soderberg that
he wanted read. He apologized for not being able to attend the meeting and wanted to
give an update from the HRA meeting. Vinge Tile and Stone has begun construction in
the industrial park, Controlled Air has essentially finished a new building as an
expansion. They have created a building large enough to serve their immediate needs as
well as a couple smaller spaces they have available for lease to serve as incubator space
for small businesses. There is a link on the website that says available commercial
properties.
The Thoroughfare Meeting on October 20, 2004 will be followed by the MUSA Review
Committee meeting.
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The first meeting with Farmington and Castle Rock representatives was held October 8,
2004. It was an initial meeting and was productive.
City Engineer Mann: There is a verbal agreement with Castle Rock Bank. Staff
will bring the documentation to a future meeting.
14. ADJOURN
MOTION by Cordes, second by Fogarty to adjourn at 9:58 p.m. APIF, MOTION
CARRIED.
Respectfully submitted,
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Cynthia Muller
Executive Assistant