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HomeMy WebLinkAbout11.03.04 Work Session Minutes CITY COUNCILIPLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP MUSA RECOMMENDATIONS MINUTES November 3, 2004 1. CALL TO ORDER Mayor Ristow called the meeting to order at 5:30 p.m. for the City Council. Chair Rotty called the meeting to order at 5:30 p.m. for the Planning Commission. Council Present: Ristow, Fitch, Fogarty, Soderberg Planning Commission Present: Rotty, Barker, Johnson, Larson, Richter 2. APPROVE AGENDA MOTION by Soderberg, second by Fitch to approve the agenda. APIF, MOTION CARRIED. 3. INTRODUCTIONS 4. DISCUSSION OF MUSA RECOMMENDATIONS Staff gave Council and the Planning Commission an overview of the MUSA recommendations made by the MUSA Review Committee at their last meeting. Council already granted MUSA for the Manley property and all properties shown in yellow on the MUSA map. Properties with letters are within the city limits, and those with numbers are in either Empire or Castle Rock Township. The committee has recommended the northern two-thirds portion of the Christenson property receive MUSA if it is removed from the ag preserve program for school use. There were 744 acres left for MUSA through 2010. After the current recommendations for MUSA there are 216 acres available to distribute for MUSA through 2010 if the City does not ask the Met Council for more MUSA. It was suggested to leave land available at one of the school sites, as the pressure to develop around the school will be tremendous. As part of good planning, granting MUSA expedites the need to update the comprehensive plan. The Planning Commission suggested asking the Met Council for the remaining MUSA available. The MUSA Review Committee would reconvene in 2006 when more land is scheduled to be recommended for MUSA. The MUSA Review Committee discussed having a standing committee that would be available when needed. If Council decides there is too much growth in 2006, land scheduled for 2006 could be moved back to 2007. If the east-west corridors are not completed, some of this development could be delayed. If there ends up being less development than planned, land scheduled to receive MUSA later could be brought forward. The size of the Seed-Genstar property almost doubles the number of houses in the City. There are approximately 25 acres commercial. Chair Rotty was concerned whether that is enough commercial. The entire area is 850 acres. Staff proposed convenience type stores along hwy 3 and wanted traffic to come downtown for shopping. CouncillPlanning Commission Workshop November 3, 2004 Page 2 There has been some discussion regarding the properties between Akin Road to the west and Giles/Murphy property to the east. The owners have asked for MUSA and they are in support of the idea of some sort of coordinated development in that area. The Committee recommended the properties receive MUSA upon plat approval. Property 6 is township property and there is a portion of the property east of the tracks and west of the tracks. The township feels they could serve the portion east ofthe tracks with sewer and water, but staff is unsure ifit is a good idea to split the property. Staffwill discuss this property and properties to the north with Empire township. The Committee recommended MUSA for 2006 for property Q2. On the east side, there is the American Legion property and the Frandrup property. The company looking at the American Legion property is also looking at the Frandrup property. The committee recommended granting MUSA upon annexation. There is a limited amount of sewer capacity on the east side. Engineering is working on an analysis ofthe sewer capacity. Staffwill subtract the amount of capacity needed for a school site on the Angus property. Once that is subtracted staff can determine how many housing units the remainder would serve. This would assist in determining which properties receive MUSA. Council can either prolong the MUSA review process and reconvene the committee, or conclude this phase of the MUSA process and reconvene the committee at a later time. Staff would prefer the latter. In 2005 there could be informal discussions with property owners to determine a timetable. Properties to the south were discussed and all agreed it would be best to extend 220th west to the Pilot Knob Road extension. Staff asked some developers to predict how many houses they would build and when. Maximum numbers are 860 homes in 2009. Staff anticipates the process for building permits will be handled differently in the future to keep up with the pace. Obtaining outside help would be a last resort. Chair Rotty would like to see the levels ramping up and then leveling off. Once the school site is chosen staff asked if these groups want to meet again once Engineering has their numbers together or should staff delay convening the MUSA committee. Council felt these numbers would be beneficial for the school district. It was agreed the current committee should meet to discuss phasing ofthese properties to the east. Mr. Bruce Rydene, representing Mr. Dave Adelmann, stated parcel S is zoned residential and asked how it does not fit to receive MUSA. They have developed a medium density residential plan. The Planning Commission felt the plan did not meet the criteria. Councilmember Fogarty explained the top two criteria for granting MUSA are helping with transportation corridors and increasing the commercial and industrial base. The Adelmann property does not meet either of these criteria. There is a limited number of acres guaranteed and the residential accepted also met other goals. Chair Rotty asked about parcels T and U. Staff mentioned they would wait to grant MUSA until the preliminary plat is approved. He asked if this should be a similar requirement for larger parcels, such as parcel 9 for example. He asked ifthere should be Council/Planning Commission Workshop November 3, 2004 Page 3 a conceptual plan before MUSA is granted. Staff replied parcel 9 does have a concept plan. Staffis going by the size of the property and the size of the development. The larger the size of the property the more expense there is for a developer to prepare a concept plan when granting MUSA is uncertain. Council and Planning Commission agreed this MUSA process and the Thoroughfare Plan are the most important items that have occurred for the City. The MUSA process should be seen as an opportunity for the growth of Farmington. Staffwill bring the MUSA recommendations to the Council on November 15,2004. This work will be used for the amendment to the Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Colin Garvey asked about the MUSA granted to the Peterson! Adelmann properties and what happens if they pull out. Council clarified only the commercial area has been granted MUSA. No one has contractually agreed to put the roads in, but the only way their development will occur is for the developer to put the roads in. Council advised staff to get situations worked out with the environmental agencies before development occurs. The Planning Commission will review all this information again at the November 9, 2004 Planning Commission meeting and their recommendation will be forwarded to the November 15,2004 Council meeting. Staffwill also notify newly elected Councilmembers of this information. 5. ADJOURN MOTION by Soderberg, second by Fogarty to adjourn at 7:24 p.m. APIF, MOTION CARRIED. MOTION by Larson, second by Johnson to adjourn at 7:24 p.m. APIF, MOTION CARRIED. Respectfully submitted, ~/:~ h?~m:U Cynthia Muller Executive Assistant