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COUNCIL MINUTES
PRE-MEETING
April 4, 2005
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Soderberg at 6:30 p.m.
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Also Present:
Soderberg, Fogarty, McKnight, Pritzlaff, Wilson
None
Joel Jamnik, City Attorney; David Urbia, City Administrator;
Robin Roland, Finance Director; Kevin Carroll, Community
Development Director; Randy Distad, Parks and Recreation
Director; Lee Mann, Director of Public Works/City Engineer; Lisa
Shadick, Administrative Services Director; Brenda Wendlandt,
Human Resources Director; Cynthia Muller, Executive Assistant
2. APPROVE AGENDA
MOTION by Wilson, second by Pritzlaffto approve the Agenda. APIF, MOTION
CARRIED.
3. CITIZEN COMMENTS
4. COUNCIL REVIEW OF AGENDA
Councilmember McKnight noted out of the four supplemental items he has had time to
read one of them. He asked if staff could provide a summary of them, and if not, he
would not approve adding them to the agenda as he has not had time to read them. City
Administrator Urbia gave a summary ofthe supplemental items.
7m) Private Development Street Sweeping Contract - Engineering
City Engineer Mann explained the City requires the developer to keep the mud off the
streets during development. At times, the developer does not do this, so the City
contracts with a street sweeping company to do the work and then the developer is billed
for it. Streets are inspected twice a week and any streets that are not clean, are cleaned
the next day.
7n) Waiver of Plat Request - 20210 Akin Road - Community Development
City Administrator Urbia explained this lot split needs to be approved by Council
because it is a metes and bounds description rather than a platted lot. Staff researched an
alternative to having another access rather than onto Akin Road, but the owner would not
agree to an alternate access. Councilmember Pritzlaff felt another entrance onto Akin
Road would be a problem as there would be three driveways very close to each other.
The owner is planning on having one house on the lot. Community Development
Director Carroll explained the new entrance would be approximately 50 ft. from the
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gravel entrance and approximately 60-70 ft. from the existing driveway to the Wefel
home. There would be three accesses within 130-140 ft.
70) Fiber Optic Bids - Human Resources
City Administrator Urbia stated this is an alternative to sharing the fiber optic system
with the school. The City feels their charge of $3600 a month is excessive and only for
two strands which will not serve the City into the future. The estimate for installing fiber
optic is approximately $130,000. This can be financed through the cable
communications fund and liquor store funds. Staffwas asking for authorization to
advertise for bids for this proj ect.
Council decided to move 7n) Waiver of Plat 20210 Akin Road to 10d) for discussion
during the regular Council meeting.
Councilmember Fogarty will be pulling items 7d) Capital Outlay - Parks and Recreation
and 7e) Sign Marquee - Parks and Recreation. Item 7e) is asking for direction and that
cannot be done under consent. Councilmember Wilson also wanted item 7e) pulled.
Councilmember Wilson referred back to the Waiver of Plat issue. He would like to hear
comments from the resident. Councilmember Fogarty asked ifthe two properties could
share a driveway. Attorney Jamnik stated the Zoning Officer determines whether the
application affects future development or abutting property owners. If it doesn't the
Zoning Officer can recommend approval to the Council.
5. STAFF COMMENTS
Parks and Recreation Director Distad stated regarding item 7e) Sign Marquee a
representative from the Rotary Club will also be in attendance to discuss this item.
6. ADJOURN
MOTION by Fogarty, second by McKnight to adjourn at 6:46 p.m. APIF, MOTION
CARRIED.
Respectfully submitted,
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Cynthia Muller
Executive Assistant
COUNCIL MINUTES
REGULAR
APRIL 4, 2005
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Soderberg at 7:00 p.m.
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Mayor Soderberg led the audience and Council in the Pledge of Allegiance.
3.
ROLL CALL
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Also Present:
Audience:
Soderberg, Fogarty, McKnight, Pritzlaff, Wilson
None
Joel Jamnik, City Attorney; David Urbia, City Administrator;
Robin Roland, Finance Director; Kevin Carroll, Community
Development Director; Randy Distad, Parks and Recreation
Director; Lee Mann, Director of Public Works/City Engineer; Lisa
Shadick, Administrative Services Director; Brenda Wendlandt,
Human Resources Director; Cynthia Muller, Executive Assistant
Bill Fitch, Jonathan Fruchtman, Julie May, Janie Tutewohl
4. APPROVE AGENDA
Councilmember Fogarty pulled items 7d) Capital Outlay - Parks and Recreation and 7e)
Sign Marquee - Parks and Recreation. Councilmember Pritzlaff pulled item re-numbered
as lOd) Waiver of Plat Request - 20210 Akin Road - Community Development. City
Administrator Urbia added supplemental items 7h) Approve Temporary On-Sale Liquor
License Application - Administration, 7m) Private Development Street Sweeping
Contract - Engineering, 7n) Fiber Optic Bids - Human Resources, 1 Oc) Consider
Feasibility Study Flagstaff Avenue - Administration, 10d) Waiver of Plat Request-
20210 Akin Road - Community Development.
MOTION by Pritzlaff , second by Wilson to approve the Agenda. APIF, MOTION
CARRIED.
5. ANNOUNCEMENTS
a) Introduce New Employee - Community Development
Ms. Tina Schwanz was introduced as the new Economic Development Specialist.
b) Introduce New Employee - Information Technology
Mr. Rob Boerboom was introduced as the new IT Specialist.
6. CITIZEN COMMENTS
Mr. Bill Fitch, 5816 Upper 183rd Street, spoke regarding an item from the February 22,
2005 Council meeting regarding the budget shortfall for 2004. His concern lies in that
the Council was told we had a $350,000 shortage. That number never changed
throughout the remainder of 2004. Seeing the building permit reports, Council knew that
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number would be slightly higher, but did not anticipate double that number. Ifthat is
added to the money transferred out ofthe franchise funds and some things Council
authorized earlier in the year, that number is almost $1 million. We were almost $1
million short last year. One thing that concerns him is that he did not see one person on
the Council ask one question during or after the presentation. How did we get from that
leap to where we ended up? It is disappointing we are short $50,000 plus per month and
the elected officials who are the liaisons or the taxpayers watch dog were never informed
of that size of a shortage. Council approved a $1.2 million tax increase for 2005. With
the way 2004 ended, he was worried we would be able to do 1/3 of the wish list. In
particular, public safety was a huge concern at the time. He was worried we would not
have the money to add three new police officers this year. He wanted to know, as a
citizen, and it was not clear to him when he sat on the Council, whose job is it to monitor
the budget? What happens when the shortfall occurs? Who is informed? The City
Administrator? The Department Heads? Do the Department Heads inform the City
Administrator? Or the Finance Director? Who decides if remedial action is necessary on
the budget? When should the Council be informed of these shortages? And whose job,
most importantly, is it to inform the Council? Some things he is concerned about going
forward, are we really confident that the Council in place, that the numbers we are
looking at for 2005 are doable? Are we going to be able to live within our budget? Is the
City Council here now able to tell us that we will live within our budget this year? What
is your game plan to ensure one ofthe other areas that is going to be of concern in the
very near future and should be right now is our budget reserve fund. His math tells him
we are at $750,000 plus in an under-funding state of the budget reserve. That $1.2
million is gone in no time. He wanted to know Council's game plan to make sure we
replenish that money and that Council gets the information in a timely, correct and
accurate manner. He realized Council's and staffs time constraints so ifhe does not
receive an answer in 4-6 weeks he would be happy because we need to take time to think
about where this is going and what really happened. In 2003 we ran into the same
situation and there was a heavy push for a City Hall in 2003. In 2004 Council was
notified of a $30,000 per month shortage for 2003. Was that timely? He did not feel it
was timely. If Council had approved a new City Hall that year, the City would have been
in really serious financial trouble this year without another huge tax increase. Weare
going forward this year, and there will be a lot of pressure on the Council to approve a
Community Center. He realized it was self-imposed by the taxpayers to build it, but the
operational side, can we afford it? That will be the main question Council will have to
answer. Even if the taxpayers say they will fund it from a referendum standpoint, can we
actually afford it from an operation standpoint? Inver Grove and Rosemount run their
arena and Community Center at a large operational cost to the taxpayers.
a) Response to Mr. John Ristow - Engineering
City Engineer Mann stated they responded to Mr. Ristow's attorney, Mr. Jonathan
Fruchtman, regarding the trees. Staff talked with the expert that Mr. Fruchtman
had spoken with. Councilmember Pritzlaff asked staff to review the expert's
comments regarding the success rate of moving the trees. The attorney's
information stated the expert had moved 1,000 trees, but then stated this would
not be successful. Then why has he moved 1,000 trees? Staff stated the
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professional indicated the most important factors are the size of the tree spade and
that they need to be watered appropriately following transplantation so the shock
of the transplanting is mitigated. He recommended a tree spade of60 inches in
diameter should be used. A 36-inch diameter spade is not successful. Staff spoke
with a consultant who sent a quote and they use a 90-inch spade. This would lend
that much more potential success to the transplantation of the trees. Staff asked
the professional ifhe felt it would be better to trim the side ofthe trees that hang
over the right-of-way and with the installation of utilities and the sidewalk there
would be cutting of the roots. The professional said it would be preferable to
properly move the trees than to cut offthe parts over the right-of-way. The
mortality of moving the trees should be shown in 18 months - 2 years. It is not a
fertilizing issue, it is definitely a watering issue.
Mr. Jonathan Fruchtman, representing Mr. Ristow at 1014 7th Street, stated in the
response by the City Engineer he made a selective reading of what was in
Professor Johnson's material. If Council were to read the material more
comprehensively, the age and size of the trees make a difference. The trees are
over 10 years old and some are 20 ft tall or taller. There is a major risk
considering the age and size of the trees. He wanted the Council to be aware they
are moving forward on trying to place a dollar value on the damage to this
property. They are looking at two ways. There was a private investor interested
in Mr. Ristow's property and he has since withdrawn his interest as a result of this
project. They feel the damages there would be $50,000 or more in terms of what
this person was willing to pay before versus what they would be willing to pay
now. They are also moving forward in selecting an appraiser to value the
property. He wanted Council to be aware the dollar figures will not be for the
value of a couple trees, but it will be the value of the damage to the property.
This will be a much larger amount than Council has been anticipating. He asked
the Council to balance the litigation costs and risks with coming up with a
solution that wins for everyone and saves the trees. Mr. Ristow wanted him to
ask some specific questions and comments regarding this matter. Mr. Ristow
understands that the City has gone out of its way in the past to not use its eminent
domain authority, has gone out of its way to reach agreements with landowners in
these types of situations and Mr. Ristow feels this has not happened in this case
and this is not what has happened in the past. He is interested in learning more
about that. One of the things the Council has expressed has been about safety,
about having the sidewalk along the curb. Mr. Ristow noted the Akin Road
project which goes past a school which is on a County highway with a higher
speed limit that a sidewalk for over a mile is along the curb. Ifthat is appropriate
to do there in a more dangerous situation, why isn't it appropriate to save the trees
in this situation and place the sidewalk along the curb? Mr. Ristow would like to
know who the County contact person is on this project. In terms of widening the
street, Mr. Ristow is interested in why a middle turn lane is necessary in this
particular location. Middle turn lanes are usually in commercial areas to allow
entry into commercial parking lots which have a high volume of traffic. They see
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them less often in residential areas. Why is a middle turn lane appropriate on this
stretch of road?
Mayor Soderberg stated with regard to saving the trees that is the City's intent to
try to save the trees. That is why the prospect of moving them. Ifthe trees were
left there and the project moved forward, the likelihood they would die in their
present position is much greater. The City is trying to save the trees. As far as
the rest of the questions, staffwill research and respond. Mr. Fruchtman stated
perhaps what City Engineer Mann looked at was trimming the trees with the
sidewalk in its present location which is on the other side of the boulevard. The
trees would be saved if the sidewalk were placed on the curb rather than having a
boulevard between the sidewalk and the street.
7. CONSENT AGENDA
MOTION by Fogarty, second by Wilson to approve the Consent Agenda pulling items
7d) and 7e) as follows:
a) Approved Council Minutes (3/21/05 Regular) (3/24/05 Special)
b) Approved Agreement with Hoisington Koegler Group Inc for Park Planning
Services - Parks and Recreation
c) Approved Agreement with Farmington Fastpitch Softball League - Parks and
Recreation
f) Approved Name Change - Therapeutic Massage License - Administration
g) Adopted RESOLUTION R32-05 Approving Gambling Event Permit -
Administration
h) Approved Temporary On-Sale Liquor License - Administration
i) Adopted RESOLUTION R33-05 Designation of Fund Balance - Finance
j) Approved Appointment Recommendation Police - Human Resources
k) Adopted RESOLUTION R34-05 Development Contract Middle Creek East 2nd
Addition - Engineering
1) Approved Bills
m) Approved Private Development Street Sweeping Contract - Engineering
n) Approved Request to Advertise for Bids - Fiber Optic Cabling - Human
Resources
APIF, MOTION CARRIED.
d) Capital Outlay - Parks and Recreation
Councilmember Fogarty stated regarding the Community Center Task Force, they
discussed reviewing the current facilities and their longevity. She was concerned
with spending $50,000 on the ice arena if its longevity was in jeopardy. She
would prefer to wait until they are sure of the status ofthe arena. Parks and
Recreation Director Distad stated he agreed with waiting for the study of the
facilities. Ifthe building will be good for another ten years, he can obtain new
quotes. The remaining Councilmembers agreed. MOTION by Fogarty, second
by McKnight to table this item. APIF, MOTION CARRIED.
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e) Sign Marquee - Parks and Recreation
The school district has done some research as far as sign marquees. These signs
would provide information to the public in a couple locations. The school is
asking the City to partner with them. However, money is not budgeted in the
2005 capital outlay budget. Staff is asking if Council is interested in moving
forward which would require budgeting this money in the 2006 budget. Members
of the Rotary Club were also present.
Ms. Janie Tutewohl, Rotary Club President, stated the Rotary Club has been
planning this sign project for two years as their Rotary Centennial project. Their
main objective is to increase the lines of communication between non-profit, City,
school and civic organizations. The Rotary is planning on being a sponsor of all
three signs. There would need to be discussions on future cost for programming.
The Rotary has some contractors that would be interested in donating the labor
and material for building the signs. Initially the Rotary was going to improve the
HRA sign on Elm Street. A few months ago Mr. Doug Bonar suggested the
Rotary pursue three locations if the school, City and Rotary work together. They
could get better pricing and exposure. The HRA sign would be the third sign.
The Rotary is open to other locations as well if there has to be three new signs.
Councilmember Wilson preferred to table the item to work out issues as far as
placement, and did not feel comfortable ear marking $30,000 at this point.
Ms. Julie May, Rotary Club, stated this was started two years ago as their
Centennial Project. They are committed to move ahead with what they thought
was going to be an alteration ofthe existing sign. Involving the other two signs
was just to increase the lines of communication and save the City and school
money. They are committed to moving forward and do not want to stall too long.
They wanted to bring this forward to make Council aware of this as they work
through the details regarding specific locations and costs. They are looking at
$90,000 total for the three signs and the Rotary Club is very committed in sharing
a third ofthat cost. There needs to be some future discussion as far as
programming and what messages would be appropriate. The Rotary would like to
see the same message on all the signs, located downtown, by the school and by
the Police Department.
Councilmember McKnight was interested in partnering with the two groups
contingent on the 2006 budget, but he was willing to start the initial steps. Initial
steps would be identify an amount, potential site work, resolution on who would
do the work, the maintenance costs, etc. Council would not have a final answer
until December.
Councilmember Fogarty thought it was a great idea and a great communicator.
She confirmed this is an electronic sign with a roving message. However,
Council needs to determine the budget and they have no idea where the budget
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will be. She was nervous to commit any money. Ms. May stated the Rotary
would have to take that into consideration.
Mayor Soderberg agreed it was a great way to partner. Bringing in the Rotary
changes the dynamic ofthe project. Parks and Recreation Director Distad stated
the school requested to get some direction from the City because they had some
money left over from a capital project. There is a concession stand at the football
field and this sign marquee were projects to use the remaining money. The school
brought this to the City because they had the money available at this time to move
forward. They received quotes from two electronic companies. Costs were $30-
32,000 for each sign and $15,000 for retro-fitting the HRA sign. The Rotary
stated they would be willing to split the costs evenly.
Community Development Director Carroll stated he spoke with Ms. Tutewohl
and they agree there are issues to be discussed. He suggested forming a
committee with representation from the Rotary, school and the City so the issues
could be jointly explored. A benefit could be they would identify a cost savings
that could result from donated labor or materials. Another thing that could be
discussed is the possibility of not doing all the signs at one time. Perhaps it is
easier to free up a smaller portion of money earlier to do the downtown sign first.
If the school as money available now, perhaps they could do the next sign with
the understanding the City would fund the remaining sign. Those details would
be worked out in a committee.
Councilmember Wilson stated he would like to partner with the school where it
makes sense. He asked what information is desired to be put out there that is not
conveyed now and/or is the information being put out there now. Being able to
change the information from a computer and change it quickly is a benefit. Ms.
Tutewohl stated the HRA sign poses more of a problem because it needs a line of
sight. The other two signs would be computer programmed. She stated they
would have to work with the City, school and Rotary to work out prime time for
traffic levels and what would be programmed when. The messages would contain
school and City functions, community events, Rotary events, civic organizations,
probably not business advertising. Mayor Soderberg noted this would address
one of their concerns which is communication with the public. It is looking at
spending up to $30,000 to work on that goal of increasing communication. It
does not seem like it would be overly burdensome especially with three signs.
His desire was to explore it and move forward. There are a lot of questions to be
answered.
Councilmember Pritzlaff agreed with forming a committee. He asked at what rate
does a delay affect this partnership. Ms. Tutewohl stated there could be some
price increases in the near future, but if a committee could be formed she felt they
could make progress fairly quickly. Community Development Director Carroll
stated the downtown sign is the easiest of the three and felt it would be the logical
one to start with. Councilmember Pritzlaff asked if there were not a lot of events
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going on, could it be used for businesses to advertise and charge for it to recover
the cost. Ms. May stated it was not their original intent, but it could be discussed.
The Rotary's intent was for a Centennial Project and to increase lines of
communication between civic organizations. It is possible, but not the original
intent. Councilmember Fogarty felt between the school, City and civic
organizations, there are events constantly. Community Development Director
Carroll cautioned with having a situation ifthere is a strong interest among
businesses, how do we prioritize that. It could create issues that are more
challenging. It was not envisioned as a fund raising project.
Community Development Director Carroll noted the sign code does not have
provisions that allow this type of sign. Staff met with another organization
interested in putting up this type of sign along Hwy 50. Council will have to
address possible changes to the code and circumstances under which to allow this.
This will be discussed at the Planning Commission, and possibly a public hearing
at the May Planning Commission meeting. It would then be brought to Council in
late May.
Councilmember Wilson wanted to support moving forward and forming a
committee. Parks and Recreation Director Distad stated staff is looking for
direction from Council whether or not to move forward with more research
working with the school and the Rotary to further identify more information to be
provided to Council at a later date without a financial commitment. MOTION by
Wilson, second by Pritzlaff to move forward and continue looking at a partnership
with the school on the marquee sign issue and for staff to inform the Council at a
later point on the progress of the partnership. APIF, MOTION CARRIED.
8. PUBLIC HEARINGS
9. AWARD OF CONTRACT
10. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
b) Adopt Resolution - Supporting Transit Legislation - Administration
The transit issue was discussed at the March 24,2005 workshop. The parking lot
at the transit station in Apple Valley is full. There is a concern by Apple Valley
that there are so many non-residents parking there, there is not enough room for
Apple Valley residents. Apple Valley has placed a large sum of money into
acquiring the property so they feel they can implement a permit system for
parking. If that is done, it would create a hardship for Farmington residents.
Farmington was the third largest City not in the taxing district. A survey was
done showing 143 license plates from Farmington at the parking lot. If the City
wanted to join the taxing district, the money would be put into paying the debt
service for the Met Council, it would not get the City additional service. So there
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is no incentive to join. Local legislators have introduced a bill to allow cities to
voluntarily enter the taxing district through an eight year phase-in. This would
provide a tool to the City to join in the future if we wanted. Staff prepared a
resolution supporting the bill.
Councilmember McKnight felt this was great legislation. He was concerned that
Apple Valley does not support the bill for eight years, only two years. He spoke
with an Apple Valley Councilmember who was very happy with the efforts
Farmington was making. He would support the legislation. Councilmember
Wilson was impressed by the residents who came to the workshop. The catch 22
is do we agree to voluntarily come in or do we agree to be forced to come in.
This bill would enable additional taxes from residents for transit which is
becoming a growing need. It is important for residents to be aware that the tax
money being paid in would be going to debt service as opposed to actual transit
operations. He felt it would be in the City's best interest to support this.
Councilmember Pritzlaff stated he supported the legislation. As far as getting into
the taxing district and not having any benefits, he asked ifthe City would see any
benefit from the park and ride at 160th Street and Pilot Knob Road. City
Administrator Urbia felt residents would be able to use that. One option would be
to possibly contract with MVT A to bring a bus to Farmington, it would give them
more resources as an alternative to the park and ride. This would be a short term
solution. Mayor Soderberg stated the legislation allows us to negotiate with the
Met Council to obtain services. The money would go to paying off debt service.
This legislation gives us a favorable tool to negotiate with the Met Council.
MOTION by Fogarty, second by McKnight to adopt RESOLUTION R35-05
supporting legislation for voluntary entry into the transit taxing district. APIF,
MOTION CARRIED.
a) Council/Management Retreat Summary - Administration
City Administrator Urbia reviewed additional ongoing goals and other goals not
included in the top six. Ongoing goals include:
1. To ensure the continuing financial stability of the City.
2. To manage the City's growth to ensure high quality and diverse development.
3. To improve the City's aging infrastructure.
4. To expand the City's recreational opportunities and facilities.
5. To preserve the heritage and atmosphere ofthe past.
6. To utilize new technologies when and where appropriate.
7. To enhance the City's aesthetics.
8. To provide a positive work environment for employees.
c) Consider Feasibility Study Flagstaff Avenue - Administration
There have been discussions between the City and school regarding the high
school site. Staffhas recommended the first step is to request a feasibility study.
The school closed on the Christensen site last week. The school submitted a
written request for a feasibility study. The request stated the scope of services
would only entail the portion of Flagstaff, south of 195th Street to Hwy 50. If the
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Council chooses to expand the scope of the study, they would do so of their own
volition. Because of this staff recommended not approving the request. There are
a number of items that need to be included in the feasibility study:
1. The paving of Flagstaff Avenue from CSAH 50 to the Farmington/Lakeville
border.
2. Installation of approximately 15, 500 feet of water main.
3. Installation of approximately 6,600 feet of sanitary sewer.
4. The 20Sth Street alignment needs to be coordinated with the site and with the
City of Lakeville.
5. Coordination with Lakeville and the Met Council is necessary regarding the
sizing of the sanitary sewer in Flagstaff to provide future service to Lakeville.
6. Determine if the site and roadway is in the Special Waters Trout Stream area
and identify impacts of such.
7. Coordination of the timing of the public improvements with the building of
the school.
S. Determine ifthere is any cost exposure to the City for any infrastructure or
increased service demands.
The request from the school does not cover paving the entire length of Flagstaff
Avenue. Staff feels there would be a safety concern with going from a paved
portion to a gravel portion. Usually development would pay for a road, but the
Comp Plan does not provide for development in this area. A survey crew has
started surveying the area to do the preliminary work due to the school's timeline.
Councilmember McKnight thanked staff for the checklist of items needed to be
done. He requested staff forward this to the school. As far as the survey crew, if
Council says stop to the feasibility study, what are we stopping ifthe survey
crews are already out there. City Engineer Mann stated when staff learned the
school would be submitting a request, a survey crew was available, and one days'
worth of surveying could be done. Staff wanted to receive direction from Council
as to whether to continue the work. This is preliminary work that needs to be
done prior to the feasibility study. Regarding wanting the road paved to the
border, he wanted to continue doing the work and the Council and school board
will resolve the issue.
Councilmember Fogarty asked how long the stretch of road is. Staff replied it is 3
miles from Hwy 50 to Lakeville. Councilmember Fogarty stated as far as the
feasibility cost, how much more is it to include the portion north of 195th Street.
City Engineer Mann replied staff would have to review that. There would be the
survey time and make an estimate on the additional work involved up front. Staff
could bring this back in the future. Councilmember Fogarty stated there is no
way she wants to see the high school at that site without Flagstaff paved from
pavement to pavement. There is no way she will approve it, so it would be
ridiculous for her to approve a feasibility report without it. It is not that great a
distance and even for maintenance it is ridiculous to go from pavement to gravel
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to pavement in such a short span. She will not approve the feasibility report
without this.
Councilmember Pritzlaff appreciated the checklist and agreed the entire road
should be included in the feasibility study. Mayor Soderberg noted the survey
work being done will remain valid whenever it is done. Staff added without any
major changes the data should remain valid. Mayor Soderberg asked how much
time the preliminary work takes before the feasibility study. Staff replied it could
take up to a month. This is a significant part of the cost of a feasibility study.
Mayor Soderberg asked if Council can take action at the joint Council/School
Board meeting. Attorney J amnik stated this is listed on the agenda, so Council
could take action on Wednesday. Mayor Soderberg felt the request is for half a
study. The City has made it clear they want it paved to the border. With the high
school site, the traffic will be students, parents, and staff. So why shouldn't the
taxing entity gaining the benefit pay for it. Council has made it no secret there are
costs involved and the school will have to be responsible because the City cannot.
Rather than deny the request, he wanted to take action at the joint meeting.
Councilmember Fogarty stated a new request would be required. She asked if it
can be tabled and then change the request. Attorney Jamnik stated a request is not
needed to order a feasibility report. The action tonight is you do not want to
proceed based on the current request. Ifthe school wants to revise the request as
part of the joint meeting, it is a non-written modification to the request.
Councilmember McKnight stated the Council talked at length about wanting the
road all the way to the border, so why not back up what was discussed and get this
feasibility study going to the border and work out the financial issues with the
school. He did not want to lose a couple days of work. Councilmember Wilson
referred to the school's request that the scope of services would only entail south
of 195th Street to Hwy 50. Ifthe City wants it north of 195th, it is up to the City.
Staffhas identified the major engineering issue of paving Flagstaffto the border.
He agreed with the need to do that. He does not want to stop the school, but if
Council approves feasibility request as is, Council is saying it is okay to stop at
195th. Councilmember McKnight stated he was not saying to stop at 195th Street.
Mayor Soderberg felt by tabling this they are not stopping work because they
have a month of preliminary work to do. There is no question as to whether the
feasibility study will go to 195th Street, that is what we all want.
MOTION by Pritzlaff, second by Soderberg to table until April 6, 2005 at the
Joint Council/School Board meeting. Voting for: Soderberg, Pritzlaff. Voting
against: Fogarty, McKnight, Wilson. MOTION FAILED. MOTION by
Fogarty, second by Wilson to deny the request for the feasibility study.
Councilmember McKnight asked if this means we do not do the study at all.
Councilmember Fogarty stated she wants it asked the way Council needs it asked.
She wanted it re-worded. Voting for: Soderberg, Fogarty, Pritzlaff, Wilson.
Voting against: McKnight. MOTION CARRIED.
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d) Waiver of Plat Request - 20210 Akin Road - Community Development
Mr. Erick Wefel requested a waiver of plat for his property in order to split his lot
into two lots. Staffhas been researching a different access for the new lot other
than Akin Road. The property owner to the south, Mr. Murphy, was not willing
to allow an access from his property. Councilmember Pritzlaff asked if approving
a waiver of plat automatically gives access to Akin Road. Attorney Jamnik
replied yes. The property to the south is owned by Mr. Murphy, but the City may
have an easement for roadway purposes as a condition of future development.
Staff does not have a proposal for the property south of the gravel road.
Councilmember Pritzlaff stated 203rd is scheduled to go across Akin Road, south
of Mr. Wefel's property. Ifthis happens, there would be a road farther back that
goes to the left which would serve as an access to the homes in the back. With
the lot split, there would be a house on the gravel road. Everyone would have to
access that street to 203rd Street and then come to Akin Road, therefore
eliminating the gravel road. Having another access on the turn lane will not work
out. He felt there is future development planned that would warrant determining
where the access for the property would be rather than allowing access to Akin
Road. Staff stated Giles Properties has submitted a concept plan showing
possible roads and lots in this area. The Planning Commission and Council have
not taken any action on that portion. Most of their development will occur in the
northern portion off of 195th Street. Any type of development in this area is
conceptual. There is a private property owner that owns the property just to the
south ofthe gravel road. To the south of that property is where 203rd Street will
go through. If that occurs, that is the most logical access point for properties there
now and for properties in the future. The Payne property and Mr. Wefel's
property were discussed in the early stages of the discussions. The owner of the
Payne property was interested in developing. Mr. Wefel's property is located
within MUSA, the Payne property is not. When the original Payne property was
discussed some ofthese access issues arose at that time.
Councilmember Pritzlaff asked if the second lot could access the driveway used
by the Payne property to the gravel road. Staff stated if the Payne property is sub-
divided you have to provide access to the lots. The question is whether access is
provided on a long-term basis by the gravel road or by an improved road or by a
new road. Mr. Wefel's difficulty is all the options that exist for access are
speculative. He has made it clear he would prefer to proceed with the sub-
division of his lot now. Mr. Wefel's intention is to sell the lot to someone who
will build on the lot.
Mr. Erick Wefel, 20210 Akin Road, stated he is intending to sub-divide his parcel
and sell it to anyone who wants to build a house and he wants access onto Akin
Road. He has been over the easement issue numerous times. Mr. Murphy is not
interested in interfering with his transaction with Giles Properties. That should be
closing in late summer 2006. Councilmember Pritzlaff stated if Giles buys the
property, the gravel road to the Payne property would be accessible. Mr. Wefel
stated they discussed this with Mr. John Anderson, Giles Properties, and they
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could only grant him a temporary easement. Mr. Wefel was not interested in that.
He was lead in this direction by staff and he has already had his survey done
because he followed the advice of City staff. Councilmember Pritzlaffwas
concerned that the driveway will be very close to the gravel road. Mr. Wefel
stated according to Mr. Anderson that road will be a cul-de-sac so that access will
not be there. New houses have been built along Akin with an access to Akin
Road. Councilmember Pritzlaffwas concerned with the safety aspect. Mr. Wefel
stated he has gone over these issues so many times he is past frustrated.
Councilmember Wilson thanked the property owner for coming and was
comfortable with approving the lot split. Councilmember Fogarty asked if the
driveway could share an access. Mr. Wefel replied not with the way the split has
been done. Councilmember Pritzlaff asked if there could be a driveway behind
the spruce trees and turn right off Mr. Wefel's driveway. Mr. Wefel wanted it
totally separate from his lot, he did not want an easement. Mayor Soderberg
stated eventually the gravel road will go away and that will solve the issue. 203rd
Street has been identified as an east-west connection that has been a concern.
With 203rd Street continuing to the east from Akin Road, he has seen plans that
align it with the existing 203rd Street which would work with some concepts Giles
Properties are proposing that will facilitate eliminating the gravel road. Mayor
Soderberg understood Mr. Wefel has been working on this for two years. If
Council approves a lot split, he has to have an access. Councilmember Pritzlaff
asked if Mr. Wefel would consider a temporary access offhis driveway until203rd
Street is extended. Mr. Wefel stated there are too many uncertainties. Mr. Wefel
felt it was comparable to other driveways. MOTION by McKnight, second by
Wilson to approve the waiver of plat located at 20210 Akin Road, splitting the
existing lot into two lots. APIF, MOTION CARRIED.
11. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
12. NEW BUSINESS
13. COUNCIL ROUNDTABLE
Councilmember McKnight: Reminded everyone the planning for Rambling River Days
continues and it is planned for June 24-26, 2005. If anyone is interested in volunteering
or for donating, the business owners will be receiving letters, residents can contact City
Hall for volunteering. He suggested staff send the checklist for the feasibility study for
Flagstaff to the school prior to the meeting on Wednesday. Council agreed. He attended
the Rambling River Center Open House and viewed their exercise equipment. They also
have their new chairs and they are very nice.
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Councilmember Pritzlaff: He attended the LMC State of the Cities Conference and it
was very interesting. He obtained copies ofthe powerpoint presentation for the rest of
Council. He and City Administrator Urbia met with Senator Pariseau and Rep. Garofalo.
City Administrator Urbia: Reminded Council ofthe Council/School Board meeting on
April 6, 2005. April 9, 2005 is the Home and Garden Show. April 13, 2005 is the ALF
Board meeting at 4:30. April 14, 2005 is the NDC Chamber Luncheon Awards. City
Administrator Urbia and Councilmembers Pritzlaff and Wilson will be attending the
awards luncheon.
Mayor Soderberg: Attended the Chamber's Business After Hours at Bugaloo' s
and there was good representation from Farmington as well as other members from the
Northern Dakota County Chamber. There was a ribbon cutting today for the fitness
center at the Rambling River Center. A gentleman who heard about the fitness center and
has some knowledge and background in physical training has volunteered to give
instruction on the equipment.
Council recessed at 8:56 p.m. and reconvened into Executive Session at 9:05 p.m.
14. EXECUTIVE SESSION - City Administrator Performance Review
15. ADJOURN
Respectfully submitted,
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Cynthia Muller
Executive Assistant