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COUNCIL MINUTES
REGULAR
December 6,1999
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Ristow at 7:00 p.m.
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Mayor Ristow led the audience and Council in the Pledge of Allegiance.
3.
ROLL CALL
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Also Present:
Ristow, Cordes, Soderberg, Strachan, Verch
None
City Administrator Erar, City Attorney Jarnnik, City Management
Team
4. APPROVE A GENDA
MOTION by Cordes, second by Verch to approve the Agenda. APIF, MOTION
CARRIED.
5. ANNOUNCEMENTS
a) Staff Introduction - Police Department
Police Officer James Constantineau was sworn in by City Administrator Erar.
6. CITIZEN COMMENTS
Mr. Ken Chin, 19066 Estate Avenue, was an objector to the CSAH 31 Assessment. He
contacted the County and they have not made a decision regarding lowering his property
value. The County told him typically it is 10%, they are trying to get it done by the end
of the year. His land is valued at $31,500. Over the last three years, his house value has
gone up $300. He stated he does not see where his value will go up that much more to
cover the assessment. His value would have to go up over $300 in one year. As the
County will not have the information ready until the end of the year, he does not know
what to do. It was determined if Mr. Chin receives the information by the December 20,
1999 Council Meeting, he should give it to City Administrator Erar or Finance Director
Roland. Mr. Chin did not think this was fair as the County already knows it will be going
down, but the County will not have it ready until the end of the year. Mr. Chin's next
option would be to appeal to District Court.
a) Seasonal Parking Restrictions - Resident Concerns
Mr. Dan Miller, 515 Elm Street, stated he received a response from staff
regarding concerns about the parking ordinance. There are 18 units in the
apartment building. There are 20 parking spots for 18 units, however most of the
people are multiple occupants which leaves very little option for parking. Some
of the parking spots are designated for people who work the night shift. From his
perspective if you live there, you have a right to a parking space. He does not feel
it is relevant that two of the units do not have vehicles. If there are 18 units and
the City is going to dictate he cannot park on the street, then if it is an issue that
needs to be addressed with the landlord, he does not know if it can be, as he
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thinks the building was built before the statutes took place. He was of the
understanding there has to be two off-street parking spots per unit. There is not
any available parking space. Other people are also concerned about holiday
guests, funerals, parties, etc. He did not recall reading notices, and wondered how
informed the public was.
Mr. John Gage, 18493 Echo Drive, owns property at 400 Elm Street, he is also
concerned about the parking ordinance. Many of the houses are old, and built
before there were 3-4 cars per family. Does the City want front yards paved? He
appreciated the fact the City was trying to reduce snow plowing costs. He does
not have room for off-street parking as he has multiple tenants. When he
purchased the property, he asked the City if parking on the street was ok. He was
told it was, and then the City passed the parking ordinance. He has not had time
to prepare for this. He is not being affected, but his tenants are. He asked if the
Council would change to odd-even parking, or if the driveway is full, allow
parking on the street. He also asked if he could have a personal exemption to this
ordinance for this year until he can work out a solution.
b) Street Name Change - Resident Concerns
Mr. Ed Stober, 18529 Endeavor Avenue, was also representing his neighbors
Harvey Wright, 18543 Endeavor Avenue, and Rick Goedde regarding the name of
their street being changed. He stated he was here two weeks ago and has heard
nothing except for a letter he received from Community Development Director
Olson. It appears the decision to change the street name has been made without
input from the residents. He requested some information from Mr. Olson 30 days
ago regarding statutes governing name changes and has not received anything.
The process started with the County being responsible for naming streets, and
then a developer changed it, and then the City staff became aware of the situation
and notified the County to change it back to Euclid Street. Apparently the
. developer did not comply. Mr. Stober feels that is an issue between the City and
the County, not his. When an issue is discovered that was not done properly, the
City should take it up with the County. The City owns that issue. If it was not
followed up, it is not his issue. The County did not act on the request until after
homes were constructed on the three lots. By the time the property owners were
notified of the need for a name change, the City had assumed responsibility for
the assigning of street names in the City. The residents have not received any
notification from the City, but they did receive a request from the County that if
they did not agree with the street name change and there was an occupancy of less
than six, they could petition and given a forum to discuss it. The response he
received from staff stated the street name should be changed to Euclid Street for
public safety. Mr. Stober then asked Police Chief Siebenaler ifhe calls 911 from
his home, does he know where he lives? Chief Siebenaler replied yes, but he
cannot guarantee there will not be any hesitation in locating a street that is three
lots long. That makes it a public safety concern. Local police and fire are not the
only issue involved in public safety. The City also uses ambulance service that
covers three cities, which relies on maps to find the location. Mr. Stober then
asked if Euclid Avenue, Euclid Street, Euclid Path, Euclid Court is a safety issue.
Chief Siebenaler replied all of them line up and are connected in some way. They
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are alphabetical. Mr. Stober had several questions as follows, which will be
responded to by staff:
1. What is the City definition of an intersection and would like a response
from the City Engineer or whoever takes care of the roads.
2. It is stated Endeavor Avenue or Euclid Street in Cameron Woods will be
private driveways, how many private driveways have a stop sign at the
end of them in Farmington?
3. What statutes address, from the letter sent out on October 29, 1999 from
Mr. Olson, that only one street name can be used?
4. What are standard operating procedures in the City for changing a street
name in Farmington, what statutes apply?
5. How do you define change of direction? We have the approximate same
change of direction and the approximate same direction itself on that street
that matches Pilot Knob up to 190th and Akin Road.
6. How many streets have been renamed by the City under the current
jurisdiction?
7. What are the present requirements for plot description at the point of sale
of real estate? Are they overridden by the County or State?
8. What are postal issues?
9. When will my mailbox be moved to my property? Right now it is on
Euclid Path. I have to walk across the street to get to my mail, so every
house on Euclid Street has a mailbox in front of their house or across the
street. If it is a postal issue it should be moved closer to my residence.
10. Between the last two weeks, a discussion must have taken place between
Mr. Olson and the Council relative to naming the street. We received a
letter that states too bad, we're changing the name of the street, that is
basically the tone of the letter. Who participated in that meeting, what
date it was held and I would like to see the minutes from the meeting. I
don't feel has if! had any input. Community Development Director Olson
replied there was no meeting. This is an administrative task assigned to
staff. It is not a legislative decision, but an administrative decision. Mr.
Stober stated so then an administrative decision can cost the taxpayer
money.
In the letter he received it is stated the requirement for a plot plan typically is a
requirement of lenders at the time a property is being purchased. Property
abstracts are also typically updated only at the time of a property being sold. In
most cases the description of a property in a deed or abstract is done by legal
description rather than street address. He would like further clarification as to
what most cases are. He does not plan on living in his house for the next 25
years. Ifhe does not pay now, he will pay later. And ifhe pays later, it is
inflation. Councilmember Strachan stated he does not have to have the plot
redone. Mr. Stober stated he is not here to disrupt he is seeking to understand. It
is a very frustrating process. How these decisions are made will affect taxpayers.
He does not feel as a taxpayer he has had a fair response or fair representation.
Personally, he does not care if the name is changed. Ifwe go through this process
it is strictly to ensure we are heard.
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City Administrator Erar stated in reviewing the Minutes prepared for Council for
this meeting, with the exception of the state statutes which can be downloaded off
the internet and provided to Mr. Stober, every single question he asked at the last
meeting was responded to in very clear detail in the letter by Mr. Olson. He is not
disagreeing with Mr. Stober, he is just reviewing the Minutes. He reviewed the
letter prepared by Mr. Olson and he did a very fair job of responding to it. We
can certainly provide him with copies of statutes and attempt to answer his
additional questions, some of which are quite detailed, within the next two weeks.
c) Traffic Concerns - Akin Road
A response was sent to the resident.
7. CONSENT AGENDA
MOTION by Strachan, second by Soderberg to approve the Consent Agenda as follows:
a) Approved Council Minutes (11115/99) (Regular) and (11116/99) (Special)
b) Approved Various City License Renewals
c) Adopted RESOLUTION RI02-99 - Approve Tree City USA Application
d) Approved Appointment Recommendation - Police Department
e) Received Information Capital Outlay - Fire Department
f) Approved Autumn Glen Plat Extension
g) Approved Meals-On- Wheels Contract - CAP
h) Approved bills
APIF, MOTION CARRIED.
8. PUBLIC HEARINGS
a) Truth in Taxation Hearing
This is the 2000 Truth in Taxation Hearing required by state statute. On
September 7, 1999 the Council passed Resolution R84-99 establishing the Truth
in Taxation Hearing and adopted a preliminary budget and preliminary tax levy
for the year 2000. Residents have received property specific notices outlining the
proposed effect of the 2000 tax levy on their individual property taxes compared
to the taxes levied against their property in 1999. These notices showed a 30.545
tax rate. Presentations were given by Finance Director Roland and City
Administrator Erar showing the highlights ofthe City's proposed 2000 Revenue
and Expenditure Budget and the 2000 Proposed Tax Levy.
Mr. Henry Iwerks, 1105 Sunnyside Drive, stated in his opinion citizens have
received some very good information tonight. That is important because general
citizens in Farmington do not think too highly of City employees and City
Council. They are getting information off the streets, etc. He would like to see
this information condensed and put in the paper. Many people do not know the
difference between the tax for the school, the City, and the County. They see the
big figure and blame the City for the whole thing. Mayor Ristow thanked Mr.
Iwerks for his compliment.
MOTION by Verch, second by Soderberg to close the Public Hearing. APIF,
MOTION CARRIED. The formal resolution adopting the 2000 budget and tax
levy will be presented to Council at the December 20, 1999 Council Meeting.
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b) Adopt Resolution - Cameron Woods Easement Vacation
Wensman Homes seeks to vacate an existing drainage and utility easement on the
easterly property line of Block 1 Lot 1 in the Cameron Woods Development. The
developer is requesting that the existing 5' drainage and utility easement be
vacated due to the existing blanket easements that are located within all of the
common areas of the site. Block 1 Lot 1 was not sized appropriately to
encompass the proposed building on the site and the building would encroach into
the easement by 0.61 feet. The vacation allows for a clearer legal description of
the property.
Ms. Kelly Murray, Wensmann Homes, stated there was a misunderstanding with
the engineer. He thought the building setback was from the private drive to the
front of the building, rather than from Euclid to the building. They do not want an
encroachment easement on the title work.
MOTION by Cordes, second by Verch to close the Public Hearing. APIF,
MOTION CARRIED. MOTION by Strachan, second by Soderberg to adopt
RESOLUTION RI03-99 approving vacating an existing 5' drainage and utility
easement along the easterly property line of Block 1 Lot 1 Cameron Woods.
APIF, MOTION CARRIED.
c) John Tschohl- Planning Commission Decision Appeal
Mr. Tschohl has filed an appeal to the decision of the Planning Commission to
deny a conditional use permit to allow commercial recreation and equipment and
maintenance storage in the A-I District. Mr. Tschohl and his son Matthew
proposed to construct a 42' x 60' building at the northwest intersection of
Fairgreen Avenue and 21 Oth Street. The applicants propose to use the building for
the storage and repair of cars and the construction of a rock -climbing wall for
recreation. The City Attorney determined car storage is a permitted use in an A-I
district and falls under the Travel Trailer and Boat Storage requirements. The
City Attorney also determined that the applicants were required to seek a
conditional use permit for the commercial recreational use, which is the climbing
wall, and the equipment and maintenance storage which is the car repair use. The
climbing wall was considered a commercial recreation use because monthly dues
would be required for non-owner participants included in a cooperative to use and
maintain the facility. The owner may repair cars that he owns within the facility,
but the repair of cars not personally owned by him for a profit is not allowed in an
A-I district.
The Planning Commission held a Public Hearing on October 26, 1999. Since the
number of issues could not be answered at the October 26, 1999 meeting, the
Planning Commission was forced to continue the review of the conditional use
permit to the November 9, 1999 meeting. The commission voted to deny the
conditional use permit for a commercial recreation and equipment and
maintenance storage use in an A-I zoning district because of the following facts:
1. Conditional use permits should not be placed on a building that may be
moved in ten years.
2. A business use should not be approved in an agricultural district.
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3. The minimum 50-foot building setback is not adequate to allow the
possible extension of Fairgreen Avenue to the north and 210th Street to the
west.
4. There are no plans for a parking lot and the plan to park vehicles on the
street is not adequate.
5. The lighting of the property is not to City standards.
6. The equipment repair use typically moves to the outside of a building
causing unsightly views.
The basis of the appeal as explained in the letter from Mr. Tschohl on November
18, 1999 is that the Planning Commission's vote was "flawed with conflicts of
interest and a lack of understanding of a very simple request." The Development
Committee reviewed the project again on November 30, 1999 and found the
Building Official and Fire Marshal discovered new information which would have
to be adhered to. This included requirements for the construction of the proposed
building which is typically done at the building permit stage of the approval
process rather than the zoning stage. However, occupancy separation issues
became apparent at the Development Committee meeting. Mr. Tschohl will have
to comply with these requirements.
Mr. David Sletten, 6040 212th Street, stated he has no objection to the project, but
he understood the Fire Marshal, Mr. Brad Schmoll sent an original letter calling
for the building to be sprinklered. He understood City Administrator Erar told
Mr. Schmoll no, he did not want this sprinklered and to do a different letter. Mr.
Sletten understood projects are governed by the Uniform Building Code and
wondered how this could happen. If Mr. Schmoll is the Fire Marshal, why was
his recommendation shelved? Mayor Ristow asked if Mr. Sletten was saying
there are two letters? Mr. Sletten stated he does not have the original letter, but
there was a letter calling for the building to be sprinklered. He does not think this
is unrealistic especially when there will be 20 people climbing a wall and in the
next adjoining space there is going to be storage of cars, gas, ignition and fire.
Right now the street is gravel, if this will go from agriculture to commercial he
felt it should be paved and have street lights.
Mayor Ristow stated in the past a commercial building is required to be
sprinklered, but there is not City water out there. Community Development
Director Olson stated Mr. Schmoll was asked to document some of the issues
relative to fire code and fire safety. Mr. Schmoll is fairly new to the City and is
not familiar with where water mains exist in the City. It was at Mr. Olson's
direction the verbage regarding sprinkling be removed as the water main is at
least a half mile away. There are other issues in the memo that still apply.
City Administrator Erar stated he is not aware of any letter that was going to go
out and then turned back from his office. Councilmember Verch stated he has the
original letter from the Fire Marshal. Not from him, but it is an original letter
dated December 1, 1999. Comparing it to the letter of December 6, 1999 there
are some changes. There are requirements under state statutes that are crossed out
that are supposed to be in there. Mayor Ristow stated Councilmember Verch
provided a letter dated December 1, 1999 addressed to Lee Smick. He asked if
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Ms. Smick remembered this letter. Ms. Smick stated she did. When the Planning
Division writes letters, Mr. Olson reviews them, and makes changes. City
Administrator Erar stated it would have been nice to see the letter prior to the
meeting, so it could have been discussed. Councilmember Verch stated he
thought Mr. Erar would have seen it, as it went across Mr. Olson's desk, he
thought Mr. Erar had also seen it. Mr. Erar stated it is an internal memo that is
reviewed to make sure the items are accurate. Mr. Olson stated on the versions of
the memo, the process is that whatever Community Development Department
staff person is preparing the memo, has to have it reviewed by him before it goes
to Mr. Erar and Mr. Olson makes any changes he feels are appropriate from his
position as department head. Mr. Erar did not see the earlier memo. It only made
it as far as Mr. Olson.
Mr. David Sletten stated if we have a Fire Marshal employed by the City and he
recommends something, why isn't his recommendation followed? Why is he on
the payroll? Councilmember Strachan stated he is a Police Officer. Ifhe writes a
memo and gives to the police chief, and he makes changes, it does not mean that
Officer Strachan is useless. It means his supervisor has information he may not
have or may choose to change something. That is his job. That does not negate
the value or the voracity of the Fire Marshal.
Mr. Sletten then asked if there was adequate water supply out there since he lives
a half mile away. Councilmember Strachan replied that is the issue. That is not
the issue of the memo. Mr. Sletten then asked if a precedence would be set
allowing the building to come out there. Councilmember Strachan replied that
has not been determined yet. City Administrator Erar stated the letter was
encouraged to be written by Mr. Schmoll to provide the property owner some
guidance relative to the requirements he would have to look at if the land use was
approved. That letter was merely advisory.
Councilmember Verch stated that for Mr. Olson to say Mr. Schmoll does not
know the codes or is new at this, it is his job and what is crossed out is required
by law. If Mr. Schmoll does not know his job, he is the Fire Marshal. Ifhe is not
experienced, why did we hire him? All he has to do is look in the book and say
ok this is required. He does not make his own rules. Councilmember Strachan
stated we are making statements that these decisions have been made and they
have not been. Mr. Olson stated there is not a water main and Mr. Schmoll can
say I feel strongly about it, but that is a conversation yet to be had. That does not
mean that the rules have not been followed or Mr. Schmoll does not know what
he is doing.
Councilmember Cordes stated she has not had the opportunity to read the memo,
the first she heard of it was tonight. She did read the current memo and it is more
of an overview to give the Tschohl's some things they will have to look at. To
indicate that Mr. Olson was either trying to hide or cover up or something or Brad
does not know his job, is a complete inaccuracy. Councilmember Verch replied
he is not the one that said that, he thought Mr. Olson said that. (During the
transcription of the Minutes, it was found Mr. Olson did not make that statement).
Councilmember Cordes stated what was deleted in this letter would be covered at
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a different time. Councilmember Verch stated it could be, but you might as well
have everything out front from the beginning.
Mr. Matthew Tschohl, 4650 Nine Oaks Circle, Bloomington, MN, stated the
climbing area will be a bouldering area because the current place is going out of
business. There is a group of 10 people, but will keep it open to select people. It
will not be for the public. All the money will be spent on the climbing wall.
There is time restriction from 7 a.m. - 10 p.m. Right now, they climb until
midnight on Fridays and would like an extension of the time.
Mr. John Tschohl, 4650 Nine Oaks Circle, Bloomington, MN, thanked the
Planning staff for their assistance over the last several months. He stated the
building will be 42' x 60', it will be a very attractive metal building. It is in an
isolated area, with two mining pits close to it. There are three questions: His son
wants a place to charge people money to store expensive cars in a heated garage.
They want a climbing wall for trained athletes. He likes to work on his cars, not
other people's cars. As far as the concerns of the Planning Commission, Mr.
Tschohl owns the property, Babe Murphy probably will buy the building, and in
10-20 years there will be development and the building will be moved. Mr.
Tschohl is concerned there was a conflict of interest with two people that
complained about the building. The Hubers and Elaine Donnelly. The Hubers
should not throw stones at a glass house if you have a glass house of your own.
Next door to the proposed building is a mining pit that looks like trash. It is an
absolute dump and he has a very attractive building and Mr. Huber does not
appreciate that. When Mr. Tschohl received the records, he noticed the person
who supported the mining pit in 1994, who was on the Council and chaired that
was also related to Elaine Donnelly who is the other person with this conflict.
Mr. Tschohl feels this is a tremendous conflict of interest. Here is a person that
promoted the Huber mining in 1994, who was related to the other person who was
opposed to the building. Mr. Tschohl stated this is a very serious, questionable
absence of ethics. Mr. Dirk Rotty (Planning Commission member) should not
have voted, should have abstained, should never have been involved. Mr.
Tschohl hoped 4 out of 5 Councilmembers would be considerate enough to
override the Planning Commission.
Mr. Marv Wier, 808 3rd Street, stated he recalled the Council has a policy as to
where commercial development can occur and was wondering if this falls under
that policy. Staff replied for the 2020 Comp Plan, this area will be urban reserve
which states no development will take place until after 2020. Mayor Ristow
asked how many buildings could be built in that area. Mr. Tschohl replied he is
selling the property to Babe and he has 147' x 147' which is enough for one
building.
Mr. Dirk Rotty stated for the record he is not related to Elaine Donnelly. Mr.
Tschohl thanked Mr. Rotty for the clarification. Mayor Ristow stated at that time
he was on the Council in 1994 and it was a unanimous vote to grant the Huber
permit. There was no personal preference by Mr. Rotty. The purpose was to
downsize the land and level off the hills.
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MOTION by Verch, second by Cordes to close the Public Hearing. APIF,
MOTION CARRIED. MOTION by Strachan, second by Verch to affirm the
decision of the Planning Commission to deny the conditional use permit for a
commercial recreation and equipment and maintenance storage use in an A-I
zoning district. It should be added to the Findings of Fact that it is not in the
Comprehensive Plan to have a commercial use in an agriculture district. APIF,
MOTION CARRIED.
9. AWARD OF CONTRACT
10. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
a) Adopt Ordinance - Rezoning Property for Farmington Lutheran Church
Mr. Bernard Murphy and Farmington Lutheran Church are seeking to rezone
16.25 acres of property from the current C-l (Conservation) and A-I
(Agriculture) to an R-l (Low Density-Residential) zoning designation for the
purpose of a future church site for Farmington Lutheran. The property is located
northwest of the Riverside development and southeast of the Pine Knoll
neighborhood, both zoned R -1. The south portion of the property is currently
zoned R-l, while the east portion of the property is zoned A-I. The north half of
the property is zoned C-l (which extends northward into undeveloped land).
MOTION by Cordes, second by Soderberg adopting ORDINANCE 099-443
rezoning the property legally described from C-l (Conservation) and A-I
(Agriculture) to R-l (Low Density Residential). APIF, MOTION CARRIED.
b) Water Use Restrictions - Water Board Communication
Council received information on a Water Use Restrictions Policy adopted by the
Water Board.
11. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
12. NEW BUSINESS
a) Acknowledge Interim Maintenance Services - Akin Road
Staff has received information from the Dakota County Highway Department
regarding their desire to have the City accept jurisdictional responsibility for Akin
Road. The City's responsibility for Akin Road would begin at 190th Street, just
east of the CSAH 31 intersection, traveling south to the CSAH 50 intersection,
but not including the intersection of CSAH 50 and Akin Road. Maintenance
services would include providing basic snow plowing, sanding and street cleaning
services. Council acknowledged the City's intent to provide limited and interim
maintenance services on Akin Road.
13. COUNCIL ROUNDTABLE
Councilmember Verch: A resident wants English Avenue closed at 190th Street. He
is obtaining a petition and will be at the next Council Meeting.
City Administrator Erar: A letter has been received from a law firm handling a claim
by Joseph and Brenda Oeth regarding an accident on Flagstaff Avenue. Questions should
be referred to City Attorney Jamnik or Risk Manager Roland.
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Finance Director Roland: The Budget Award plaque has been received and is
displayed in the reception area.
Community Development
Director Olson: He attended a Liveable Communities Act Sub-Committee
meeting. A clean-up grant application had been submitted and the committee granted
funding in the amount of $85,000. Staff is waiting to hear regarding submittal of a larger
grant.
Mayor Ristow: A garbage truck entrance sign request was received from
Mr. Moench. Mr. Moench had given the City permission to enter his driveway to service
the other residents along the alley. He would like something in Writing from the City
regarding adverse possession. A resident has asked when the Council Meetings will be
broadcast on T.V. City Administrator Erar replied the City of Apple Valley will be
hiring an individual to run the cable T.V. equipment this week. This employee will be
working for the cities of Apple Valley, Rosemount, and Farmington.
Council adjourned to Executive Session at 9:30 p.m.
14. EXECUTIVE SESSION - Progress Land Company
15. ADJOURN
Executive Session adjourned at 10:10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Cynthia Muller
Executive Assistant